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P: I’m Philly.
M: And I’m McKenna.
P: And we’re Two Peas in a Podcast.
M: Today is part two of unsolved disappearances.
P: Alright so next I have the Sodder Family. So this family, Father - George and Mother - Jennie, they were just chillin’, it was Christmas season, they were sitting around in their house. It was Christmas Eve.
M: Awww.
P: They’re with nine of their 10 children, the oldest was in the army I believe.
M: That’s a lot of kids.
P: Right. Yeah. This is in Fayetteville, West Virginia in 1945. So the kids were like “We want to stay up and play with our presents” and the oldest sister was like “Ya I’ll handle it. We will handle chores and everything. Don’t worry about it.” So everyone went to bed after that. According to historichorrors.wordpress.com, Jennie received what she thought was a prank phone or something and it was of this woman that called, asked for someone, and Jennie was like “No, that person doesn’t live here.” The woman on the phone laughed and then hung up.
M: Ooookay. Is this on Christmas Eve still?
P: Yes.
M: It was Mrs. Claus. Sorry that was wrong.
P: She noticed that the all the lights were still on in the house and the doors were unlocked but it was the kids job to handle that and they were usually really good about it. So she turned off the lights, locked the doors and she had barely fallen asleep when she heard a thump on the roof and then the sound of something rolling.
M: It was Santa.
P: See you know, you’d think that but Santa wouldn’t turn their house on fire. Turn their house on fire? Catch their house on fire!
M: That’s the worst Christmas present ever.
P: The night did a full 180 and Jennie realized the house was on fire at like 1:30 in the morning and she screamed and told the family to get out. Everyone evacuated, well not everyone. Who was out there looked around and did a little headcount and George was like “there is five people still in that house.
M: Help.
P: He had tried to get in and everything. He tried to find his ladder but his ladder was not in his… I think it was the garage or something. He couldn’t find the ladder. Then he tried to pull the truck out so that they could stand on top of it to get in and truck wouldn’t start due to cold weather.
M: That’s bad luck right there.
P: As all that was happening the fire department was called by the oldest daughter. She ran to the neighbors. The fire department that is only three miles away but they arrived really late at eight exactly.
M: The house caught on fire at 1:30.
P: Yes. They are 3 miles away and didn’t show up until 8 o’clock in the morning.
M: I mean it is Christmas but still.
P: That was so late because the house burned down in 45 minutes.
M: Yikes.
P: The police department checked the ashes and remains but found no trace of anyone being left in the house.
M: What?
P: They also tried to rule that the cause of the fire was… ow my shoulder just popped… was faulty wiring but George was like “No, no, no, I just had this wiring redone in the past couple of years. There is no way that would have happened.” And the lights had stayed on for a while during the fire. No one knows what happened to those five kids. Some conspiracies around that is that some say it was a mafia strike.
M: Okay.
P: George Sodder was from Italy and wasn’t really a big fan of Mussolini.
M: Okay. Alright.
P: It said in the article that he had said some things about Mussolini and stuff like that but there was no definite reason as to why he left Italy so that a little suspicious. There was also an incident a few months before the fire. A man tried to sell the Sodder’s life insurance, but he became really upset when George was like “nah man I think we are good. Don’t worry about it.” He then threatened that their house would “go up in smoke” and his children would “be destroyed.”
M: That’s suspicious.
P: If you’re asking me, I think it was the insurance man just because he was oddly specific.
M: What happened to those kids though?
P: No one knows. They think that maybe the kids were kidnapped at that’s why all the doors were unlocked and all of the lights and stuff were on and they were kidnapped and that why they couldn’t find any ashes or anything.
M: That seems viable. The insurance guy?
P: I think it was the insurance guy.
M: I have another aircraft one.
P: Okay.
M: I realized both of mine have to do with planes. D.B. Cooper. D.B. Cooper. This is an icon.
P: This one’s really iconic, yeah.
M: Okay, so this guy he was, no one really knows his real name but he was given a pseudonym of D.B. Cooper. He hijacked an airplane leaving from Seattle. He demanded, he came up to the flight attendent and was like “I have a bomb in this briefcase so you better land this and I’m gonna ask for all these demands.”
P: What year was this?
M: This was 1971. TSA wasn’t even a thing.
P: Okay, fair enough, fair enough, fair enough.
M: Okay so, they land the plane, he demands $20,000, which today is over a million dollars, four parachutes, food for the people. He got all that, he let all the passengers off but he kept the three pilots and the flight attendant. He said “Okay, we’re going back up in the air and we’re going to fly south,” suspecting towards Mexico. He told them to fly low and keep the back door unlocked. That was not a good idea. They shouldn’t have done that because he was suspected to jump near Portland and there were five aircrafts that came from a military base that were told to follow this aircraft in case this guy tries to jump. No one saw him jump. But when they landed again in Las Vegas, he was not on the plane. Everyone said that he had jumped. All that was left on the plane were the two extra parachutes and his tie. He took one parachute and he strapped the money to it let it go. Another one [parachute] obviously for himself. No one saw him jump. They had a thousand troops, multiple jets, helicopters all sent out looking for him. There was no trace of him. There was no trace of the money and it was tagged money so if he would have used any of those bills, they would have known. It was never used. The only real evidence came up in 1980 and a boy was digging a fire pit in this place called Tena Bar, which is a sandbar in a river. He uncovered three bundles of cash, which equalled $5,800. That’s not even the majority of it.
P: Yeah.
M: It was a few inches below the surface and the serial numbers and everything match. But the rest of the money was never recovered. So no one knows what happened. He just disappeared into thin air.
P: Okay. Money’s gone, besides that $5,800. Not used. He wasn’t found.
M: Yeah.
P: No one saw him jump but they suspect that he jumped over Portland?
M: Yeah.
P: Okay, yeah.
M: So there’s a couple things. They thought maybe he was CIA because a lot of the training that would have gone into this would have CIA and he just kinda went crazy. But there’s nothing in the CIA database. They had a composite sketch and everything. No one had found this guy or ever heard of him. Lowy-key I feel like he did it for the fun of it. Like “Y’all.”
P: “I’m gonna do this.”
M” “Bet. I can steal this much money from the government and jump out a plane.”
P: “And no one’s gonna catch me.”
M: “Yeah, watch.”
P: “No, D.B. You can’t do it.”
M: With modern technology and everything too. The tie that he left, it’s suspected that he’s was a CEO or business man just because of different chemicals that were left on the tie. But a businessman is not about to-
P: What kind of chemicals?
M: I don’t know just different dusts and stuff in the air they can center the location where he worked. He was just wearing a plain black suit and a skinny black tie.
P: Alright that’s-
M: So, I just think he was there for the fun of it. Or, there was another one that he didn’t exist, like was from the future. So he just came to steal the money and went back to the future when he jumped.
P: You know.
M: I mean.
P: That would explain why no one’s -
M: Maybe in the future that money will be a relic. You know what I’m saying?
P: I mean I guess.
M: This is what they used to use as money.
P: Stop.
M: Actual dollar bills.
P: Oh my gosh, I’m just gonna work at a museum in the future. What if? Oh my gosh. You think in the future there’s gonna be time machines so we’re gonna come back?
M: Stop, I don’t wanna talk about the future. That’s scary.
P: But, no, no, no. It’s gonna be in the future so when they come back they’re gonna be in our time and they’re gonna be talking to us but they’re from the future.
M: Yeah, that’s how time travel works.
P: I know, but it’s weird.
M: Another podcast. Another podcast.
P: Another podcast, okay. Let’s wrap this up.
M: That’s all I have.
P: That’s all I have too. Whatever you guys think, let us know.
M: Who is D.B. Cooper? Do you know him?
P: Who set the Sodder house on fire?
M: He’d be like 90 now though so that would be kind of difficult.
P: Who shot down Amelia Earhart? Who took over the lost colony? What happened? Let us know.
M: This is Two Peas in a Podcahh…. I’m gonna try again. This is Two Peas in a Podcast.
P: And, we’re out.